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On Atheism and Veganism, Part Deux

Animal Person

" On Atheism and Veganism " created what was for the most part a respectful, interesting discussion that brought up a couple of items I'd like to clarify or explore. First off, I began the post with, "For me, atheism and veganism go hand-in-hand." But in my vegan advocacy that's the perfect place to begin (or end).

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Hal Herzog's "Some We Love, Some We Hate, Some We Eat"

Animal Person

Hal Herzog’s “ Some We Love, Some We Hate, Some We Eat ” (Harper 2011), though fascinating, is ultimately depressing for vegans and animal rights activists. Well, as it turns out neither a trip to a slaughterhouse nor killing an animal yourself is powerful enough to make people go vegan.

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The Book That Saved Derrick Jensen's Life

Animal Person

The book, which I have not read, that saved Derrick Jensen 's life is called The Vegetarian Myth: Food, Justice, and Sustainability by Lierre Keith, who was a vegan for 20 years, suffered serious medical problems, and started feeling better when she recommenced eating animals. Throughout the book, Keith mocks vegetarians and vegans.

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On Fighting for "Animal Rights"

Animal Person

They don't satisfy all of the requirements of Francione, but their goal is the abolition of the use of sentient nonhumans by humans. Fighting to maintain the integrity of the words humane, love, euthanasia or compassion, is also fighting for animals. And it usually involves exchanges with non-vegans.

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On The Respectful Emperor

Animal Person

We are not people who are interested in discussing animal rights, as in, the right of sentient nonhumans to not be used by humans for potential profit, for sport or for lunch. Maybe "humane" is already on its way out for the folks trying to convince themselves and others that humane killing isn't an oxymoron.

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On "Compassion," "Nonviolence" and "Justice"

Animal Person

Then again, so do people who kill animals for a living. After all, they "love" the animals they kill. Nonviolence" is much more difficult to finesse if you're killing animals for a living. Or vegan pumpkin pie. Compassion" has been so diluted that most people don't bat an eyelash at the idea of " compassionate carnivores."

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On "The Wild"

Animal Person

The animals on farms are created for the sole purpose of human consumption. The next argument is usually something along the lines of: But animals in the wild might starve to death, and get injured, maimed or killed by predators! We can choose not to kill and eat someone we do not need to eat in order to survive.

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