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Why isnt hunting for sport not banned yet?

Its cruel and uneccesary pratice.Most of the world that doesnt have good food markets is I guess allowed to hunt to extent...but why in developed countries is hunting for sport still allowed?

Why should animals die(regardless of there wild numbers)to some hunter who just wanted to feel accomplished?When he could better just get a real job or something better?

Why are such activitys not of bye gone era where wildlife wasnt as respected as it is now?

Its just so cruel and disgusting 100%.

Getting a kick out of one beings suffering(that never did anything bad to you and even if it did it never has human motive for it).

Our awarness should make us stop bad trends but why isnt this one oppoesed more?

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I feel like you live in a different world than most hunters.

Trophy hunting, of any animal, is absolutely disgusting and I won’t support it in any way.

Hunting game for sustenance is part of life. At the end of the day we are animals, and if we don’t hunt deer for example, then the animals will die of lack of resources or alternative predators.

I know many folks who hunt large game, and all of them clean the animal very thoroughly as to not waste anything, and can live off the meat for up to a year at a time.

You have a very naive view of food sources, I would guess you’re from the city?

This isn’t about making animals suffer. It’s about supporting life.

Then this world hasnt changed much?

Thats kinda still disgusting..why dont citys supplay thoes people?They could still hunt but how can they not get supplays that normal people around world get?

Even villages get that much.

That’s not what it’s about. Hunting wild game for food is a way of life. Why is this such an issue for you, that people obtain their meat in different ways? Instead of buying it from the grocery store, they source it themselves.

I know but shouldnt with technology and food markets food be,given to thoes who cant obtain it as easly?

What does that have to do with hunting???

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why arent you supplying people

I dont know how to.

Many people in my villages can buy food and rarely need to kill them.

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You can buy groeries and give to the pople that need it. It is easy to find people are desperate.

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Most hunting actually helps the environment because it helps keep game levels in check. Deer in my area. If they were not hunted to a certain extent, would overrun and destroy homes and farms

Fair for that point.

But I would prefer if people that kill them take no pleasure in doing so.

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You are saying that bunching up hundreds of cattle into a small pen only to take a bolt to the head is more human than letting a single animal roam free its entire life to end quickly one day with a bullet is more human?

No just...if violence can be stoped there should be a way to make it happen?

Farming probably will never be fixed.No matter what as you know.People have been eating farm animals for centures.They wont hear how bad we treat them just so that they are getting feed...

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At least in iberia hunting is neccesary for the ecosystem (overpopulation of hogs and rabbits mostly) and the reintroduction of predators is not viable. You are probably refering to sport hunting in Africa, wich is one of the ways reserves get funded ironically.

This is so fucked up I cant even belive it...(not talking about Iberia)....why is world like this man..

Nope you are sort of a naive idealist.

Damn it..

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African elephants have become a sort of pest species. They eat like crazy and when a herds population booms the environment can't support them. Were talking mass extinctions of plant life and smaller species. Reserves will keep track of herds and cull them as necessary. They basically sell their lives to big game hunters. They arent allowed to take trophys or ivory of course either, just kill and take a photo. They also do their best to kill them away from other elephants as they can develop ptsd. It's highly regulated and effective. The reality of conservation isn't always pretty.

ETA: but they've developed elephant birth control which is great

I guess that makes it all fair in the end...damn...but it still hurts to know such thing...😭

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i mean like zoos those hunting reserves are probably better guarded than most national wildlife sanctuarys

Really?

Zoos play a huge role in conservation more than people give them credit for

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I get satisfaction from hunting because I know where that meat has come from and how much more fresh it is than say for instance, packaged meat.

But it feels pain too..doesnt that feel bad?

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To me hunting (depending on how it's done) is WAY more humane than what they do in farming practices and slaughterhouses.

I don't agree with hunters, but people who stand there and shoot their prey, are a lot more respectful than farmers, especially intensive farming.

My reasoning:

Pigs - They spend their whole short lives in tiny, dirty, dark, cages unable to turn around; then they are shipped off to slaughter where they suffocate to death in a Co2 chamber (which can take up to 3 minutes of them screaming).
Chickens - Make chicks are thrown into a grinder alive after hatching, females end up in a cage or rammed in a dark/dirty shed. Then they grow unnaturally fast to the point where some collapse under their own bodies, they are stressed and injured from their situation. Then they are literally thrown into tiny crates and get more injuries. Then they are sent to be hung by their feet before they are electrocuted and killed.

Sheep - Have their tails cut off as babies without any aesthetic, then taken from their mums early. Spend their lives covered in faces as they poop over their wool, risk infections from their thick unnatural coat, and then are sheered regularly for humans. Then they are chased around by a predator every time they are moved before being shoved in a lorry and sent to slaughter. At slaughter most sheep stunning fails and their throats are slit while they are still awake and aware; they bleed out slowly. Basically Halal.

Cows: Dairy Cows are on average culled between 3-6 years, the natural lifespan of a cow is 21 years! They spend their lives being impregnated, having their calf traumatically ripped away from them, then milked. They suffer infections, the chances of collapse as their legs will split due to unnatural bodies and they suffer ALOT of stress. Depending on the country you live in, they spend half of the year (winter) living in their own waste in a shed, then IF they are lucky outside in the summer.
OH and male Dairy Calves are useless so they are just killed/sent to slaughter straight after birth. ALOT are just shot and trashed.

SO canned hunting is really bad, but no-where near as messed up as the life of a farm animal. And yet it's legal to treat animals that way and people will support it by paying for animal products.

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You are speaking of commercial farming. Normal farmers do not do that to their animals.

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Commercial farming/normal farming. It's the same thing. There is no such thing as a farm without suffering when it comes to making a profit off of animals for food.

The part about cattle is all true for most "humane" farms. Actually the way I said it was about "human" farms worldwide. Cows can not produce milk without having a baby, if the babies stay with the mum then they drink the milk, so it's common practice to take calves away from their mothers.
Male calves are very commonly killed at birth/disappear out of the records, or are sent to fattening places to be veil. Depending on where you live, the UK has little demand for veil.
Some cows actually spend their lives living in barns until they die.
Less than 3.5% of chickens are free-range.
Free-range Chickens do not have it as good as you would like to believe, most free-range hens do not get to go outside because they too do not have much space. Inside space is pretty tight, so when locked in from bird flu, it's not much different from barn raised. In addition, they still get their beaks cut off painfully to prevent them from injuring each-other due to stress.

Less than 3% of pigs are free-range.
70% of sow pigs live in crates. They will spend 22% of their adult life in crates. The natural lifespan of a pig is 15-20 years but sows are exhausted and killed after 3-5 years. When not in Sow crates they are usually housed in large sheds. ...Oh babies also get their tails cut off.
In the UK and USA 90% are killed by gassing, that is 90% in the UK and 90% in the USA.

I would suggest looking into it, because it's honestly extremely scary what these animals go through and people do not know about it.

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