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Deconstructing Spencer's Comment

Animal Person

There is a fine line between optimism and pessimism, it's called realism and (most) vegans have absolutely zero concept of what that is or how it needs to be applied to our daily lifestyles. Perhaps Spencer R would like to look into Eric Schlosser 's work, such as Fast Food Nation , and also the recent " Food Inc.,"

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Roger Scruton on the Duty to Eat Meat

Animal Ethics

The lifestyle associated with the Sunday roast involves sacrifices that those brought up on fast food are unused to making—mealtimes, manners, dinner-table conversation and the art of cookery itself.

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